Hey Face, why don't you stick up for Nathan?

People in green have the ability to ban people without a reason given. That happened to me. No reason given except for "we all know why".

So either shit or get off the pot.

either ban the guy or accept him. But this in between shit where people in charge call him names "troll"...that in itself is a violation of the rules.

that is name calling.

And repeated name calling

and no one steps in

Yeah you go with the flow alright, you brown nosing weasel cocksucker

yes, now I beat yours...with my dick, she enjoys it

Why would I be scared of Babs? I've talked to her more than enough times by far to speak with her completely frankly. Online or in person (or at least in-phone). I've also defended her but a few times, as she's quite capable of defending herself. I've absolutely defended her strongly, but I wouldn't say I'm "quick to jump in" by any means. And what even could I be scared about? Is she gonna damage a clique I'm not a part of or damage a business deal I don't engage in? lol   As for the rest...

I've stated all along that I don't generally jump into a situation that's already being handled. For sure if I know something pertinent the mod doesn't know, for sure if I know with great certainty I can help or fix, but as a general rule I stay out both out of respect for the people involved as well as a desire to not muddy waters further. And on this topic specifically,....man, I've tried. Going back to the beginning I've tried to get members to not create or engage conversations of a persecuting nature. But they can't be stopped. And today, I sort of understand why. There is a subsection of folks for whom the things presented have value. Their actions in some part are based on what is said in forum. I believe it was Nathan specifically who was involved in a SNAFU of this sort, with some sort of gift card giveaway or similar. His/her posts did cause people to spend energy on an avenue that didn't really exist. And then there's the recent hubbub where members or their kin got scammed. There's an increased demand for integrity as a result of these things. This is a part of that.


And honestly, there's something wrong about all of this. I almost always play the defendant, and I make it my job to find any reasonable alternative explanation to quell the mob with the torches. You can see how often Buzz gets loose, or how I didn't act on the StrictlyAP = WoN, to see this plain as day, and Nathan has been no different. But with Nathan, I've plum run out. I can no longer convince myself that this is a real person showing a genuine personality. And the worse the situation gets, the more I feel it proves this hunch correct. It's based on no fact, no defining incident or characteristics, nothing other than my own judgement saying "Something here's fucked". But be that as it may, it's too strong to ignore. 

None of that is a "very good reason". It might not even be a good reason. So what about plain ol risk v reward?

Make it all stop and I wind up being wrong means I just enabled a huckster. Someone who, minimum, is gonna troll and disrupt the forum, and could, possibly, cause who knows what real life strife.
Allow it to continue and I wind up being wrong means an innocent person was allowed to be pestered. A person who, based on every single letter of everything I've seen, is about the most good natured person in the known universe. The type where a sincere apology would completely rectify the situation.

I can't find a way to make acting the proper play. Simple as that.

Not sure why anyone here is surprised by BBB's posting. She's proven herself to be the biggest POS on that site.

She is the number one offender of the rules. If she wasn't a mod she would have been nuked by now. Only reason she gets away with it is because has come out and said he's a pussy.

She is one of the main drivers of why the site continues to decline.

I hope she stops harassing and bullying Nathan.