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Post by larryS on Aug 13, 2017 2:11:24 GMT
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Post by Mrv on Aug 14, 2017 2:12:17 GMT
Larry, you might appreciate this. Today, as oft is the case, I was listening to "the Jewish Hour" on KBOO FM (a listener supported Portland station). Pretty exotic stuff; you might want to give it a listen if you're into that sort of thing, and judging by some of your music choices I suspect that yes, you'd understand and appreciate it. see: www.kboo.org/search/node/jewish%20hour
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Post by larryS on Aug 14, 2017 4:23:28 GMT
Hmmm...i was looking back at the music choices I posted
Sparks.....non jews Louden wainwright III..... definatley non jew Roches......definately non jews singing about Christ the Movies....in the romantic music thread.....non jews reference to dark side of the moon, in romantic music.....probably pink floyd members werent jewish Kings of LEON.....If leon is a jewish name .....ok .....but other than that nothing jewish about them cyndi Lauper....definately not jewish Soundheim......Bingo.....finally a jew Uncle Bonsai....yes.. jews....at least 2 of them are .
I did look at that link , and listen a little....but I dont see the connection honestly. I find that music rather grating on my nerves as alot of middle eastern music is to my ear.
But none of the music i referenced sounds anything like that....not even close.
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Post by larryS on Aug 15, 2017 22:49:26 GMT
unique for 1973.....cross between beachboys,50s rock, and modern(for 1973) synthesizer rock. we all got balls and brains...................but somes got balls and chains jew or no jew? ? not a jew
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Post by Fisk on Aug 15, 2017 23:02:47 GMT
unique for 1973..... cross between beachboys,50s rock, and modern(for 1973) synthesizer rock. we all got balls and brains...................but somes got balls and chains jew or no jew? ? not a jew Dunno what it is, but I just can't. I find that's true with a lot of "big" artists. Beach Boys, Beatles, Rolling Stones, AC/DC, Led Zeppelin... it's all just musak to me. Perhaps too much commercial use, I dunno. If I wanna listen to Jews, I prefer the Beastie Boys. "Paul's Boutique" is one of those few albums where every song is a good'urn. Added bonus is that it's also one of those "albums you found during that special time". Age of Awakening? Those wild teen years when you're becoming yourself. The old enough to do stuff, young enough not to care phase. When you could bang down a handful of mushrooms because you had no real life problems that were gonna pop up at an inopportune time. It is the soundtrack to a very interesting and bizarre phase of my life, and def the best release of a pretty solid group.
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Post by larryS on Aug 15, 2017 23:50:25 GMT
actually Fisk....that jewish song has become a standard at most synagogues for Sabboth services for a good 10 years.
And for alot of Bris's
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Post by Mrv on Aug 16, 2017 15:39:36 GMT
As an unrepentant pot smoker and former dabbler in psychedelics, I really like this EDM song by one of my favorite DJ's, Tiesto.
I sometimes think that on the day I lay dying, I'd like to go out listening to this at high volume.
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Post by Fisk on Aug 17, 2017 21:03:56 GMT
Do you regret that this kind of stuff wasn't out in your day, or did Pink Floyd fill the slot just fine for you?
What's now considered EDM was just sort of starting when I began taking my reality vacations. It was techno and trance in my day. I don't really remember being beholden to music that much with psychedelics; usually after popping some tabs or a handful of shrooms we went and ran around the woods, having vocal jams while using chunks of bark, logs, leaves as percussion. 8-10 people boppin' and skattin' out the theme song to "Doug" is quite a memory of mine. But MDMA was certainly music centric, and there's a few trance songs that to this day I have to be careful with, lest Mr Flashback pops in for a visit. I damn near crashed the parts truck when I worked for Chevy when the following song came on. Just like that, all the roads melted out from under me...
Edm, specifically the "wandering" type like you posted, is tough for me to get into. It's like classical in that it sometimes takes a bit of effort to appreciate.
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Post by larryS on Aug 17, 2017 21:40:13 GMT
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Post by larryS on Aug 17, 2017 22:08:42 GMT
Do you regret that this kind of stuff wasn't out in your day, or did Pink Floyd fill the slot just fine for you? What's now considered EDM was just sort of starting when I began taking my reality vacations. It was techno and trance in my day. I don't really remember being beholden to music that much with psychedelics; usually after popping some tabs or a handful of shrooms we went and ran around the woods, having vocal jams while using chunks of bark, logs, leaves as percussion. 8-10 people boppin' and skattin' out the theme song to "Doug" is quite a memory of mine. But MDMA was certainly music centric, and there's a few trance songs that to this day I have to be careful with, lest Mr Flashback pops in for a visit. I damn near crashed the parts truck when I worked for Chevy when the following song came on. Just like that, all the roads melted out from under me... Edm, specifically the "wandering" type like you posted, is tough for me to get into. It's like classical in that it sometimes takes a bit of effort to appreciate. I come from a generation with "shopping carts" that I fill by my hand. Music Without autotune. Where an orchestra was 30 talented musicians, not a single dude in front of a synthesizer. I saw a documentary of Daft Punk and seriously I dont get it. I know they have a ton of Grammys....but I still dont get what they do. In their concerts they are wearing helmets and standing in front of an electronics board. I have no idea if all the music is canned, or if they are actually effecting all the sound, or some of the sound. Hell I once went to see the WHO in MSG in the mid 70s, and they dont have a keyboard....but in one song there is a famous Keyboard riff(Babba Oreily) a synthesizer intro. And it was played from a canned recording....and if you read the reviews..they were hammered for having "canned music". Thats how pure rock was back then. Pure vocals, nothing canned, pure instruments, pure talent. Now people go to concerts and there is alot og bells and whistles. Grand choreography where the person clearly cant sing and do the dance routine...but the song is "sung" without a missed note. Clearly canned. An entire song....and no one cares. Totally different standards. So as my parents who fed on Sinatra and Como, and Elvis,...looked at the kinks, and Animals, and Hendrix, and joplin, and the stones and Who...as not real music...where pure singing talent was drowned out by electric noise in their mind.....thats how I look at the new wave of electronic music and the canned music and autotune generation. I am not saying its bad.....because then I fall into the trap my parents fell into with their generalizations.......I am just saying I dont get it.
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Post by larryS on Aug 19, 2017 15:40:01 GMT
I'm building another table. It's just wood. Couple planks of this, couple rods of that, and in a couple days I'll have a table exactly the way I want it, made of real wood instead of particle board, with not a single screw, nail, bolt or bracket in it>>>fisk
yes i like wood vs particle board in music as well....even if the wood has imperfections over the perfect mass produced particle board
i like the Mona Lisa itself over an electronic reproduction....or any painting for that matter with its inherent imperfections over a glossy electronic reproduction where you cant appreciate the individual brush strokes. The intricacies get lost. You get the jist of it.
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Post by Mrv on Aug 19, 2017 16:02:43 GMT
So then, do you prefer to listen to music via LP or CD/i-pod?
Analog vs. Digital.
I am an audiophile with some very high quality high end audio systems, and I agree that the sound of music played via LP is better than that from a CD.
Warmer, fuller, more "bounce" to it, as unlike digital which due to its limitations cannot produce all of the recorded information, analog reproduces much more of the original performance, at least if it was recorded properly.
Probably the best sound you can get comes from a very good reel to reel recording made on a good deck such as a Revox.
Newer and easier is not always better.
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Post by Mrv on Aug 19, 2017 16:04:52 GMT
So then, do you prefer to listen to music via LP or CD/i-pod? Analog vs. Digital. I am an audiophile with some very high quality high end audio systems, and I agree that the sound of music played via LP is better than that from a CD. Warmer, fuller, more "bounce" to it, as unlike digital which due to its limitations cannot produce all of the recorded information, analog reproduces much more of the original performance, at least if it was recorded properly. Probably the best sound you can get comes from a very good reel to reel recording played back vian a good deck such as a Revox. Newer and easier is not always better.
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Post by larryS on Aug 19, 2017 17:40:35 GMT
So then, do you prefer to listen to music via LP or CD/i-pod? Analog vs. Digital. I am an audiophile with some very high quality high end audio systems, and I agree that the sound of music played via LP is better than that from a CD. Warmer, fuller, more "bounce" to it, as unlike digital which due to its limitations cannot produce all of the recorded information, analog reproduces much more of the original performance, at least if it was recorded properly. Probably the best sound you can get comes from a very good reel to reel recording made on a good deck such as a Revox. Newer and easier is not always better. LP is a preference of course when doable. I remember when CD first came out some artists like Tom Petty remarked that the quality was not up to their standards, and that the sound was just like a blended dull average of the sounds of the original LP. I remember listening to some CD albums that I knew inside out from hundreds of listens to the LP and some of the instruments were not as pronounced as in the LP. For example with Jethro Tull, some of his flute contributions were not as in the forefront or didnt stand out as part of the whole as they did on the LP. Maybe some of the "remastered" ones are better. But I agree that CD recordings are a glossy dumbed down version of what could be found on LP...or would be found on LP if they were made. But for convenience sacrifices are made.
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Post by Fisk on Aug 24, 2017 22:51:24 GMT
I am not saying its bad.....because then I fall into the trap my parents fell into with their generalizations.......I am just saying I dont get it. I'm glad you catch yourself. We all, I think, declare good vs shit based on preference, but in the end, it's all just energy. Whether you're beating a deer skin drum you hand made, or riffin' a Gibson, or tapping a PC keyboard, it's all just energy. For sure, some things require different skills. I could probably PC my way into creating the 3rd movement of Moonlight Sonata using just Mario Paint whereas I haven't a hope in hell of ever doing it on a typical instrument, so there is a subset of "skill" present with traditional musicians. But some people don't give a shit about architecture, they just want a house, you know? And when all you care about is the end product, then these digital dudes are equal to some of the greats. Speaking of Moonlight... This is my favorite classical piece, sort of. I very much love the 1st movement. I very much do not understand or very much like the second. The first is so... blue. I can't tell if I'm feeling tragedy, or remorse, or an impending doom, but it's, to me, a pretty dark piece. Then the second comes on and it's complete cartoon fields of flowers. I find it jarring juxtaposed to the 1st, and even when listened to on its own, I just don't get it. But the third? The third movement does whatever the opposite of "grinds my gears" is. It is pure energy. It's so goddamn manic, so fucking metal, I have a legit physiological reaction to it. I sweat, my heart rate increases, BP goes up... it's the aural equivalent of cocaine. And to hear and see it performed by a master, it's just the tits.
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