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Post by Mrv on Dec 15, 2017 3:50:17 GMT
The guy fancies polyester and turtle necks: what can you expect?
He's antediluvian, a relic of days gone by.
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Post by larryS on Dec 15, 2017 4:44:00 GMT
yes, if he improved his site..or just keptit up minimally iver the years, he would still post the same picture from 30 years ago with a turtle neck. But still, being a fashion cripple doesnt preclude one from having self respect...and keeping his website with his name on it from turning into a slum.
he is like the dude i talked about from years ago at the meadowlands racetrack who sold his "tip sheets" and claimed to live at the track and watch morning workouts and get inside info...blah blah blah....and then I see him at a gas statioon one day with a 20 year old car duct taped together.
Patrick has a website duct taped together and isnt embarrassed to have people see that piece of shit. A relic of a website.
how successful a gambler must patrick be to have a 20 plus year old website that cant afford fixing.
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Post by Mrv on Dec 15, 2017 7:00:01 GMT
He's an odd duck, no two ways about it.
And then there's his boot licking sidekick, Mr. Stanton: good grief, what a pair.
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Post by garnabby on Dec 15, 2017 15:24:12 GMT
A regular dynamic duo. Another V and S?
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Post by larryS on Dec 15, 2017 15:34:24 GMT
i wonder afterthe 80s when the tv show dried up,..if he found a way to get social services help like food stamps or welfare. I mean living with mommy,having kids,..no real traceable income. Being able to shift any savings into moms bank account . destitute as viewed by the state.
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Post by Mrv on Dec 15, 2017 15:52:10 GMT
Did the guy hold a real job?
Seems like all he did was go to AC casinos, play in private poker games, and play softball.
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Post by larryS on Dec 15, 2017 17:50:47 GMT
the only thing reportable i think was whatever he made from cable tv show. seminars, book sales out of his garage on the internet, gambling winnings....all have no real oversight
I cant imagine he got a ton of money from the local cable once a week show.
And therefore i cant see him getting much in social security now
but when you see the behind the scenes living circumstances of "full time gamblers"....i think they are more like patricks real life than the life he wants us to believe he has/had
thats why when he tells people that they can make a living as a full time gambler if they have aat least 10k to start for a bankroll.....its fucking criminal. Its saying sure you can be like me.Everyone can. Except that he doesnt mention he lived with his mommy, and his wife split, and he had other income from gambling sales rather than gambling winnings
remember the dude..i forget his name...who was an avid follower of JP....and he was retired and went to try being a full timer. He ended up living in the basement of a relative near detroit....and gave daily reports, and within 2-3 weeks he packed it in. He even had direct phone and email consultation with patrick himself. With all of patricks books, and personal one on one training. After all the years being on the patrick site and defending his methods....he failed miserably. Now this is the only testimonial on the ability to be a successful full time gambler on his site over the last 20years. There is no one coming forth totell us how they have done well as full time gamblers...raised a family, funded vacations, put money away for retirement using patricks methods. It seems no one has duplicated the claimed results of JP. No one has found full time success,
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Post by Mrv on Dec 16, 2017 1:09:02 GMT
So far as I can determine most people need to have some form of "advantage play" in order to make it as a full time casino gambler.
Successful sports gamblers gain their advantage by studying the available info and gathering info which may not be readily available to the public, such as Billy Walters did (before prison); poker players make a living if they have the bankroll and skill.
All others need some form of AP.
The Big Four and the Little Three are not bad things, but they do nothing to overcome the house edge which in the end grinds us down.
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Post by larryS on Dec 16, 2017 2:04:44 GMT
eVEN IN SPORTS PATRICK GOT IT WRONG
"its not who you pick....but how you bet who you pick"
thats what he sold in the "service"
but billy walters proved...its all about WHO you pick.
you cant pick 3 out of 3 losers and use a method to squeeze profts out of the losing picks
But if you pick 3 out of 3 winners....no matter HuW you bet them....you WILL mame a profit
if patrick could pick "WHO" with consistency....he would not be living in hades, he would not be relegated to playing in underground casinos at night, while bringing his grandkids to the dogtrack by day.
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Post by Mrv on Dec 16, 2017 17:54:26 GMT
Another example of his clouded thinking concerns his hedging plays.
Hedging may serve to reduce volatility, but it increases the casino's edge against the player.
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Post by Mrv on Jan 23, 2018 4:57:38 GMT
No action on his board for about two months. Curious, I checked to see whether his death has been reported yet; I searched wiki. see: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_PatrickThe poor guy; a dozen "John Patricks" are listed, and none are him. Second fiddle to / eclipsed by "John Patrick - subdean, Lincoln Cathedral."
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Post by larryS on Jan 23, 2018 21:55:58 GMT
Heavey said he was ill and to send him christmas cards....and someone repllied hours later saying that not true..that he had just spoken to him on the phone.
Heavy was going to be the man who takes over the patrick site.....so if patrick stepped down,I would think he would post there.
Yet patrick says "the girl" was in charge of allowing posts to go through....he said eh had no control. A lie based on observation.
So "the girl" could allow posts to go through while patrick recovers.
no "goodbye". no "I will be taking a break"....
so maybe the site is down, and he doesnt have the funds t fix it, ot start a new one.
I mean if he had a stroke, I could see not being able to post something...even a goodbye or "I am closing the site". But other than that it dosnt take alot of energy to post a short sentence.
so either he had a stroke....or his site went down and he doesnt have a pot to piss in let alone money to fix a website.
and its odd heavy doesnt have a definitive comment
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Post by larryS on Jan 23, 2018 21:57:43 GMT
If you have an extra Christmas or New Years Card around and don't mind the cost of a stamp in exchange for a little good will, I'd appreciate it if you guys who have enjoyed John Patrick's books and videos through the years would take the time to send him a card. John is getting on up there in years (86, I believe) and has another birthday coming up in early January if I'm not mistaken. Rumor has it that healthwise he's on shaky grounds these days. I'm sure he'd appreciate hearing from any of you interested in taking the time to write. His address is:
as per heaVY
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Post by larryS on Jan 23, 2018 21:58:33 GMT
I just this week talked to John on the telephone. He claims to be in excellent health and thinks he will be here for at least another 50 yrs ( I mentioned that he was probobly kidding, but he said that he was serious ). I do not know him well, but he never says that he is ailing when we talk. I ask him everytime about his health, but he mostly talks about his grand kids and their sports endeavors and of course ....sports betting. He says he is still playing poker five times a week and going to a traveling casino twice a week,to play craps and pai gow poker. His voice always seams strong,but his age is getting up there,as you mentioned.....Seattle rick
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Post by larryS on Jan 23, 2018 21:59:41 GMT
BOTH ABOVE POSTED DEC 18
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